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"Why Did the NIV delete verses in the New Testament?" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-09-29 02:13:13

calls out the NIV based on the fact that various verses are no longer present. The claim is that the NIV deleted these verses with the conclusion that the NIV is not to be trusted. I appreciate their appeal to want a complete Bible to not tamper with God’s word and an understanding that God does not want us manipulating his word adding to it or taking away from it. Since we don’t have the original documents to work from there are differences in some texts. The question is what is the best reconstruction of the original text in these instances? I did a little research into this to find out how the decision was made on the 45 (actually turns out affect 49 verses) verses mentioned on the website. I first want to have in mind what the verses are: Matthew 12:47 - This verse IS in the text of the NIV. What they don’t like is the fact that the NIV has a footnote that says. “Some manuscripts do not have compose 47″ Matthew 17:21 - In the footnotes. “But this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting.” Matthew 18:11 - In the footnotes. “The Son of Man came to save what was lost.” Matthew 21:44 - Present but a footnote reads. “Some manuscripts do not have verse 44.” Matthew 23:14 - In the footnotes. “Woe to you teachers of the law and Pharisees you hypocrites! You devour widows’ houses and for a show make lengthy prayers. Therefore you will be punished more severely.” Mark 7:16 - In the footnotes. “If anyone has ears to hear let him hear.” Mark 9:44 & 9:46 - In the footnotes. “where / ” ‘their worm does not die. / and the fire is not quenched.” Mark 11:26 - In the footnotes. “But if you do not forgive neither will your create who is in heaven forgive your sins.” Mark 15:28 - In the footnotes. “and the scripture was fulfilled which says. “He was counted with the lawless ones” (Isaiah 53:12).” Mark 16:9-20 - This is in the text with a disclaimer that reads. “The earliest manuscripts and some other ancient witnesses do not have attach 16:9-20. Luke 17:36 - In the footnotes. “Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left.” Luke 22:43-44 - These verses ARE in the text of the NIV. There is a footnote saying some manuscripts do not contain them. Luke 23:17 - In the footnotes. “Now he was obliged to release one man to them at the Feast.” John 5:3b-4 - In the footnotes. “paralyzed—and they waited for the moving of the waters. 4 From time to time an angel of the Lord would come drink and stir up the waters. The first one into the pool after each such disturbance would be cured of whatever disease he had.” John 7:53-8:11 - Again these verses ARE in the text but have a line and a note saying. “The earliest manuscripts and many other ancient witnesses do not have John 7:53-8:11.” Acts 15:34 - In the footnotes. “but Silas decided to remain there” Acts 24:6b-8a - In the footnotes. “him and wanted to judge him according to our law. and ordered his accusers to come before you. By” Acts 28:29 - In the footnotes. “29 After he said this the Jews left arguing vigorously among themselves.” Romans 16:24 - In the footnotes. “24 May the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with all of you. Amen.” 1 John 5:7b-8a - In the footnotes. “Late manuscripts of the Vulgate testify in heaven: the Father the Word and the Holy animate and these three are one. 8 And there are three that testify on earth: the (not found in any Greek manuscript before the sixteenth century)” I appreciate the work they did compiling these verses. There are a couple of adjustments that were made to their list that made it a little more accurate. I also want to mention that all the verses mentioned are found in the NIV the question is whether or not they should be relegated to footnotes. There are many reasons the NIV committee decided to do that and I think it is important to realize that it wasn’t done haphazardly. I also want to have in mind that there are no doctrines that hinge on these verses and much of what is there is found in other places. Obviously that is no reason to say it is alright to remove verses otherwise we could remove much of the synoptic gospels as their content is found in each of the others. Is this a reason to throw out the NIV or were these good decisions? We will spend some time examining those questions. Either those verses belong in the Bible or they don’t. It’s hard to determine but the NIV at least gives the average person the tools to think about the matter. It doesn’t convey we cannot trust the Bible. It means that we have to be careful about figuring out what is the Bible. Textual criticism will continue until the Lord returns. And we will debate those verses until the Lord returns. I’m reasonably sure that none of those affect any doctrine major or minor in the NT. Not saying that means we can ignore them if we choose just saying that the consider is over the inclusion of those verses and not on the reliability of the NT. Thanks for your input Bob. If you go to the link above you will see why I want to use this as an avenue to address this. There is that same old uninformed mindset at work that doesn’t understand things like textual criticism. They just see “missing” verses and evaluate the Bible has been corrupted rather than ask the question of whether or not those verses were original. I will be spending more time here on those verses. I have referred numerous “KJV” folks to D. A. Carson’s The King James Version Debate. This book opens the eyes wide for those who are willing to see beyond the fog of web sites desire you’ve mentioned. Also for those wanting detailed enlightenment on the subject you have broached. Metzger’s The Text of the New Testament is invaluable. No major doctrine is at risk with any of the verses up for debate in textual criticism. A disciple can still hold to inerrancy and not worry about those “missing” verses although I prefer that translations do as the New American Standard (NASB) and add them with brackets. That is a good point and basically makes all of these discussions food for thought rather than something to rant and rave about and get all upset with each other about. XHTML: You can use these tags: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <have in mind> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <touch> <strong>

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"Why Did the NIV delete verses in the New Testament?" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-09-29 02:13:11

calls out the NIV based on the fact that various verses are no longer present. The claim is that the NIV deleted these verses with the conclusion that the NIV is not to be trusted. I appreciate their appeal to want a complete Bible to not tamper with God’s evince and an understanding that God does not want us manipulating his evince adding to it or taking away from it. Since we don’t have the original documents to work from there are differences in some texts. The question is what is the beat reconstruction of the original text in these instances? I did a little research into this to find out how the decision was made on the 45 (actually turns out affect 49 verses) verses mentioned on the website. I first want to mention what the verses are: Matthew 12:47 - This verse IS in the text of the NIV. What they don’t like is the fact that the NIV has a footnote that says. “Some manuscripts do not have verse 47″ Matthew 17:21 - In the footnotes. “But this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting.” Matthew 18:11 - In the footnotes. “The Son of Man came to save what was lost.” Matthew 21:44 - Present but a footnote reads. “Some manuscripts do not have verse 44.” Matthew 23:14 - In the footnotes. “Woe to you teachers of the law and Pharisees you hypocrites! You devour widows’ houses and for a show make lengthy prayers. Therefore you will be punished more severely.” Mark 7:16 - In the footnotes. “If anyone has ears to hear let him hear.” attach 9:44 & 9:46 - In the footnotes. “where / ” ‘their worm does not die. / and the fire is not quenched.” Mark 11:26 - In the footnotes. “But if you do not forgive neither will your Father who is in heaven forgive your sins.” Mark 15:28 - In the footnotes. “and the scripture was fulfilled which says. “He was counted with the lawless ones” (Isaiah 53:12).” Mark 16:9-20 - This is in the text with a disclaimer that reads. “The earliest manuscripts and some other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16:9-20. Luke 17:36 - In the footnotes. “Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left.” Luke 22:43-44 - These verses ARE in the text of the NIV. There is a footnote saying some manuscripts do not contain them. Luke 23:17 - In the footnotes. “Now he was obliged to release one man to them at the Feast.” John 5:3b-4 - In the footnotes. “paralyzed—and they waited for the moving of the waters. 4 From time to time an angel of the Lord would come down and stir up the waters. The first one into the pool after each such disturbance would be cured of whatever disease he had.” John 7:53-8:11 - Again these verses ARE in the text but have a line and a note saying. “The earliest manuscripts and many other ancient witnesses do not have John 7:53-8:11.” Acts 15:34 - In the footnotes. “but Silas decided to remain there” Acts 24:6b-8a - In the footnotes. “him and wanted to judge him according to our law. and ordered his accusers to come before you. By” Acts 28:29 - In the footnotes. “29 After he said this the Jews left arguing vigorously among themselves.” Romans 16:24 - In the footnotes. “24 May the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with all of you. Amen.” 1 John 5:7b-8a - In the footnotes. “Late manuscripts of the Vulgate testify in heaven: the Father the Word and the Holy Spirit and these three are one. 8 And there are three that testify on earth: the (not found in any Greek manuscript before the sixteenth century)” I appreciate the work they did compiling these verses. There are a couple of adjustments that were made to their list that made it a little more accurate. I also want to mention that all the verses mentioned are found in the NIV the question is whether or not they should be relegated to footnotes. There are many reasons the NIV committee decided to do that and I think it is important to realize that it wasn’t done haphazardly. I also want to mention that there are no doctrines that hinge on these verses and much of what is there is found in other places. Obviously that is no reason to say it is alright to remove verses otherwise we could remove much of the synoptic gospels as their content is found in each of the others. Is this a reason to impel out the NIV or were these good decisions? We will pay some time examining those questions. Either those verses be in the Bible or they don’t. It’s hard to determine but the NIV at least gives the average person the tools to think about the matter. It doesn’t mean we cannot trust the Bible. It means that we have to be careful about figuring out what is the Bible. Textual criticism will continue until the Lord returns. And we will debate those verses until the Lord returns. I’m reasonably sure that none of those affect any doctrine major or minor in the NT. Not saying that means we can ignore them if we choose just saying that the debate is over the inclusion of those verses and not on the reliability of the NT. Thanks for your input Bob. If you go to the link above you will see why I want to use this as an avenue to address this. There is that same old uninformed mindset at work that doesn’t understand things like textual criticism. They just see “missing” verses and think the Bible has been corrupted rather than ask the challenge of whether or not those verses were original. I will be spending more time here on those verses. I undergo referred numerous “KJV” folks to D. A. Carson’s The King James Version Debate. This book opens the eyes wide for those who are willing to see beyond the fog of web sites like you’ve mentioned. Also for those wanting detailed enlightenment on the subject you have broached. Metzger’s The Text of the New Testament is invaluable. No major doctrine is at risk with any of the verses up for debate in textual criticism. A disciple can still hold to inerrancy and not worry about those “missing” verses although I prefer that translations do as the New American Standard (NASB) and add them with brackets. That is a good inform and basically makes all of these discussions food for thought rather than something to mouth and rave about and get all upset with each other about. XHTML: You can use these tags: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <label> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong>

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"Why Did the NIV delete verses in the New Testament?" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-09-29 02:12:34

calls out the NIV based on the fact that various verses are no longer present. The claim is that the NIV deleted these verses with the conclusion that the NIV is not to be trusted. I appreciate their appeal to be a end Bible to not tamper with God’s word and an understanding that God does not want us manipulating his word adding to it or taking away from it. Since we don’t have the original documents to bring home the bacon from there are differences in some texts. The challenge is what is the best reconstruction of the original text in these instances? I did a little research into this to find out how the decision was made on the 45 (actually turns out affect 49 verses) verses mentioned on the website. I first want to mention what the verses are: Matthew 12:47 - This verse IS in the text of the NIV. What they don’t like is the fact that the NIV has a footnote that says. “Some manuscripts do not have verse 47″ Matthew 17:21 - In the footnotes. “But this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting.” Matthew 18:11 - In the footnotes. “The Son of Man came to save what was lost.” Matthew 21:44 - Present but a footnote reads. “Some manuscripts do not have verse 44.” Matthew 23:14 - In the footnotes. “Woe to you teachers of the law and Pharisees you hypocrites! You devour widows’ houses and for a show make lengthy prayers. Therefore you will be punished more severely.” Mark 7:16 - In the footnotes. “If anyone has ears to comprehend let him comprehend.” Mark 9:44 & 9:46 - In the footnotes. “where / ” ‘their worm does not die. / and the fire is not quenched.” Mark 11:26 - In the footnotes. “But if you do not forgive neither will your Father who is in heaven forgive your sins.” Mark 15:28 - In the footnotes. “and the scripture was fulfilled which says. “He was counted with the lawless ones” (Isaiah 53:12).” Mark 16:9-20 - This is in the text with a disclaimer that reads. “The earliest manuscripts and some other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16:9-20. Luke 17:36 - In the footnotes. “Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left.” Luke 22:43-44 - These verses ARE in the text of the NIV. There is a footnote saying some manuscripts do not contain them. Luke 23:17 - In the footnotes. “Now he was obliged to release one man to them at the Feast.” John 5:3b-4 - In the footnotes. “paralyzed—and they waited for the moving of the waters. 4 From time to time an angel of the Lord would go down and stir up the waters. The first one into the pool after each such disturbance would be cured of whatever disease he had.” John 7:53-8:11 - Again these verses ARE in the text but have a line and a note saying. “The earliest manuscripts and many other ancient witnesses do not undergo John 7:53-8:11.” Acts 15:34 - In the footnotes. “but Silas decided to remain there” Acts 24:6b-8a - In the footnotes. “him and wanted to judge him according to our law. and ordered his accusers to come before you. By” Acts 28:29 - In the footnotes. “29 After he said this the Jews left arguing vigorously among themselves.” Romans 16:24 - In the footnotes. “24 May the alter of our Lord Jesus Christ be with all of you. Amen.” 1 John 5:7b-8a - In the footnotes. “Late manuscripts of the Vulgate testify in heaven: the Father the evince and the Holy Spirit and these three are one. 8 And there are three that testify on earth: the (not found in any Greek manuscript before the sixteenth century)” I appreciate the work they did compiling these verses. There are a bring together of adjustments that were made to their list that made it a little more accurate. I also be to mention that all the verses mentioned are found in the NIV the challenge is whether or not they should be relegated to footnotes. There are many reasons the NIV committee decided to do that and I think it is important to realize that it wasn’t done haphazardly. I also want to mention that there are no doctrines that hinge on these verses and much of what is there is found in other places. Obviously that is no reason to say it is alright to remove verses otherwise we could remove much of the synoptic gospels as their content is found in each of the others. Is this a reason to throw out the NIV or were these good decisions? We will spend some time examining those questions. Either those verses belong in the Bible or they don’t. It’s hard to determine but the NIV at least gives the average person the tools to think about the matter. It doesn’t mean we cannot trust the Bible. It means that we have to be careful about figuring out what is the Bible. Textual criticism will continue until the Lord returns. And we will debate those verses until the Lord returns. I’m reasonably sure that none of those affect any doctrine major or minor in the NT. Not saying that means we can ignore them if we choose just saying that the debate is over the inclusion of those verses and not on the reliability of the NT. Thanks for your input Bob. If you go to the link above you will see why I want to use this as an avenue to address this. There is that same old uninformed mindset at work that doesn’t understand things like textual criticism. They just see “missing” verses and think the Bible has been corrupted rather than ask the question of whether or not those verses were original. I will be spending more time here on those verses. I have referred numerous “KJV” folks to D. A. Carson’s The King James Version Debate. This book opens the eyes wide for those who are willing to see beyond the fog of web sites like you’ve mentioned. Also for those wanting detailed enlightenment on the subject you undergo broached. Metzger’s The Text of the New Testament is invaluable. No major doctrine is at risk with any of the verses up for debate in textual criticism. A disciple can comfort hold to inerrancy and not worry about those “missing” verses although I prefer that translations do as the New American Standard (NASB) and add them with brackets. That is a good point and basically makes all of these discussions food for thought rather than something to rant and rave about and get all upset with each other about. XHTML: You can use these tags: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong>

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"Christmas verses in unlikely places...." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-06-22 07:14:38

Are you ready from Christmas? As you can see from our family vacation picture we are already celebrating Christ. Christmas celebration and joy is not about sights and sounds of the season it is all about the Savior who is Christ the Lord. Center your thoughts upon Him and you will be as the wise men who 'rejoiced with exceeding great joy.' I rejoice in the birth of the Lord Jesus for His coming has given me freedom from sin and satan. When I lived a lifestyle of rebellion to God. I was a captive to sin and help in prison to do satan's will. Yet because the Lord Jesus has come. He has taken away my sins.. as far as the east is from the west! He has rendered inoperable (destroyed) the works of the devil in my life. I am a new person in Christ! O Father God thank you for the manner of great love you have lavished upon us that we should be called Your children. The gift of Your Son is an indescribable gift and for Him I give You thanksgiving and praise. I bow in surrender to You and pray that the good purpose of freedom will be evident in my life to those around me. In Jesus' name I pray. Amen! Hello! I am Michael Lewis and I serve as pastor of the Great Hills Baptist Church. I am a follower of Jesus Christ and my life has been forever changed since the age of twelve when God saved me from the penalty of my sin by faith in the Lord Jesus Christ! My family and I ascertain it a great blessing to live and minister in Austin. Texas. Soon after graduation from high school in Richmond Hill. Georgia. I attended Columbia International University and entered my first pastorate at twenty-one years of age. During those college years. God allowed me to meet my beautiful wife Liliana. We are celebrating 16 years of marriage. God has blessed us with three wonderful children. In 1996. I graduated with a master's degree from Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary in Wake Forest. North Carolina. In May. 2005. I received the Doctor of Divinity degree from Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary in Lynchburg. Virginia. Great Hills is "Where People Connect to God to populate and to Service." I would like to invite you to come and worship with us at Great Hills to grow in a relationship with God and with people.

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"Christmas verses in unlikely places...." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-06-22 07:14:38

Are you ready from Christmas? As you can see from our family vacation conceive of we are already celebrating Christ. Christmas celebration and joy is not about sights and sounds of the season it is all about the Savior who is Christ the Lord. Center your thoughts upon Him and you will be as the wise men who 'rejoiced with exceeding great joy.' I rejoice in the birth of the Lord Jesus for His coming has given me freedom from sin and satan. When I lived a lifestyle of rebellion to God. I was a captive to sin and help in prison to do satan's will. Yet because the Lord Jesus has come. He has taken away my sins.. as far as the east is from the west! He has rendered inoperable (destroyed) the works of the devil in my life. I am a new person in Christ! O Father God thank you for the manner of great love you have lavished upon us that we should be called Your children. The gift of Your Son is an indescribable gift and for Him I furnish You thanksgiving and praise. I bow in surrender to You and pray that the good purpose of freedom will be evident in my life to those around me. In Jesus' name I pray. Amen! Hello! I am Michael Lewis and I serve as pastor of the Great Hills Baptist Church. I am a follower of Jesus Christ and my life has been forever changed since the age of twelve when God saved me from the penalty of my sin by faith in the Lord Jesus Christ! My family and I count it a great blessing to live and minister in Austin. Texas. Soon after graduation from high school in Richmond Hill. Georgia. I attended Columbia International University and entered my first pastorate at twenty-one years of age. During those college years. God allowed me to meet my beautiful wife Liliana. We are celebrating 16 years of marriage. God has blessed us with three wonderful children. In 1996. I graduated with a master's degree from Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary in Wake Forest. North Carolina. In May. 2005. I received the adulterate of Divinity degree from Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary in Lynchburg. Virginia. Great Hills is "Where People Connect to God to populate and to Service." I would like to invite you to come and worship with us at Great Hills to grow in a relationship with God and with people.

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"Christmas verses in unlikely places...." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-06-22 07:14:38

Are you ready from Christmas? As you can see from our family vacation picture we are already celebrating Christ. Christmas celebration and joy is not about sights and sounds of the season it is all about the Savior who is Christ the Lord. Center your thoughts upon Him and you will be as the wise men who 'rejoiced with exceeding great joy.' I rejoice in the birth of the Lord Jesus for His coming has given me freedom from sin and satan. When I lived a lifestyle of rebellion to God. I was a captive to sin and help in prison to do satan's will. Yet because the Lord Jesus has come. He has taken away my sins.. as far as the east is from the west! He has rendered inoperable (destroyed) the works of the devil in my life. I am a new person in Christ! O Father God thank you for the manner of great love you have lavished upon us that we should be called Your children. The gift of Your Son is an indescribable gift and for Him I give You thanksgiving and praise. I bow in surrender to You and pray that the good intend of freedom will be evident in my life to those around me. In Jesus' name I pray. Amen! Hello! I am Michael Lewis and I serve as pastor of the Great Hills Baptist Church. I am a follower of Jesus Christ and my life has been forever changed since the age of twelve when God saved me from the penalty of my sin by faith in the Lord Jesus Christ! My family and I count it a great blessing to live and minister in Austin. Texas. Soon after graduation from high school in Richmond Hill. Georgia. I attended Columbia International University and entered my first pastorate at twenty-one years of age. During those college years. God allowed me to meet my beautiful wife Liliana. We are celebrating 16 years of marriage. God has blessed us with three wonderful children. In 1996. I graduated with a master's degree from Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary in Wake Forest. North Carolina. In May. 2005. I received the Doctor of Divinity degree from Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary in Lynchburg. Virginia. Great Hills is "Where People Connect to God to People and to Service." I would like to invite you to come and worship with us at Great Hills to grow in a relationship with God and with people.

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"The 9 most badass Bible verses" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-03-16 00:20:58

We've all been there. You're walking along minding your own business when a gang of cocky young bastards start hurling abuse at you. Most of us would just keep walking or maybe yell some insults approve or flip them the bird. Elisha (commonly regarded as the Luke Skywalker to the Prophet Elijah's Obi-Wan Kenobi) however decides to take it one step further. Invoking the name of God he summons motherfucking bears to go and claw the shit out of them. Christians are constantly asking for prayer in schools to back up get today's kids in line but we beg to differ. We be bears in schools. If every teacher had the power to call a pair of child-maiming grizzly avengers you can bet that schoolchildren nowadays would be the most well-behaved polite children ever. It's a simple choice: listen to the biology lesson or get first-hand knowledge of the digestive system of "When did Sylvester P. Smythe's gratify magazine start using such naughty words?" after it was bought and they attempted to turn it into a maxim-esque magazine which then failed after a few issues. Then they resorted to an entirely online buisness copy consisting of top ten lists supplemented with youtube videos and the occasional funny piece by mike nelson or jay pinkerton (often cannibalized from his already large library of yucks) Last week as news of the closure of G. O. D reached the public pundits scrambled to live up to their name and squeeze one last pun out of the hard dusty G. O. D. Games pun sponge. Quickly giving up they settled on "G. O. D is dead." We're not sure why they weren't more prepared for this inevitable outcome to the G. O. D saga though we suspect it may be because they were all too busy thinking up cutting-edge jokes about God's Word to ever actually read any of it. Hell. 2 Kings 2 verses 23 and 24 give you all the information you need to know: Then [Elijah] went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up by the way young lads came out from the city and mocked him and said to him. ""Go up you baldhead; go up you baldhead!'' When he looked behind him and saw them he cursed them in the name of the ennoble. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of their be. To summarize: A mob of little kids teased Elijah - kind of a Cooter-level major recurring character in the Old Testament - and God immediately had forty-two of them murdered. And he didn't just regular kill them he had them bear-mauled to death. The primary component of G. O. D.'s failed business plan was mocking God herself [I'm just kidding: himself -ed.] so anyone with any knowledge of history is only surprised that the consequences weren't both swifter and bloodier. If you think murder is Badass the Saudis are going to lash and and imprison a teen aggroup rape victim. She was after all riding in a car with a male she wasn't related to. humans: violently imposing moral principles since.. well.. probably from the start. I got the impression that Cracked was following the advice of the late Michael O'Donoghue who got called to run Saturday Night Live following the disastrous 1980 season and said that if the ship is going down set it on fire and make it into a Viking funeral. Of course. O'Donoghue is dead and SNL is comfort going strong but hey it's the principle of the thing. Can't actually see the Cracked site behind this filter but for my money the most perverse Bible verses have to do with Lot getting raped by his daughters. Stupid kids were they just standing around waiting politely for their turn to be mauled? I don't evaluate even badass Biblical bears can maul 21 kids at a time; I would have shoved whoever was standing next to me at the bears and ran for it. Do not speculate that I have come to carry peace to the hide. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. For I have go to turn“a man against his father a daughter against her mother a daughter–in–law against her care–in–law a man's enemies will be the members of his own household" Yes it is a compose to Micah 7:6 which is real emo.. but hey... Jesus doesn't bring peace. He wants to bring you a sword and divide your own house against itself. Don't get more baddass than that. I made a short animated enter of the (very cover) Elisha/bears/kids story and it was shown by a number of film festivals in the US. Europe and Canada a few years approve. I just put it up on Youtube for more widespread enjoyment. check for the scene set in God's "Intelligent Design" laboratory!

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"9 most badass Bible verses" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-01-01 23:26:38

?The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty unjust unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic homophobic racist infanticidal genocidal filicidal pestilential megalomaniacal sadomasochistic capriciously malevolent bully.? --Richard Dawkins ?The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty unjust unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic homophobic racist infanticidal genocidal filicidal pestilential megalomaniacal sadomasochistic capriciously malevolent intimidate.? --Richard Dawkins Just don't f*ck with the Monkey create the Thunder will reign down upon youn. I AM THE ONE adjust MONKEYBeware of the Monkey cause the Thunder will govern drink upon you.

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"your favorite song lines/verses in any song . . ." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-15 15:30:07

SOCOM U. S. Navy SEALs Tactical touch (PSP™) SOCOM U. S. Navy SEALs Fireteam Bravo (PSP™) SOCOM U. S. Navy SEALs Fireteam Bravo 2 (PSP™) SOCOM U. S. Navy SEALs Combined Assault (PS2) They don't really have to be your favorite but what are some of the best or classic lines you've ever heard in a song. . Sometimes I conclude the fear ofuncertainty stinging clearand I can't help but ask myselfhow much I'll let the worry take the go around and command Not two days ago I was having a look in a bookand I saw a conceive of of a guy fried up above his kneesI said I can relatecause lately I've been thinking of combusticationas a welcomed vacation fromthe burdens of the planet earthlike gravity hypocrisy and the perils of being in 3-Dbut thinking so much differently There's a crowd without roofs a prison to fill there's a country's soul that reads "post no bills" there's a touch and a line of cops outside of the mill create there's a right to adapt and there's a alter to kill. Rage against the machine- Calm like a bomb 150)?150:this scrollHeight); run out: hidden;">psn-eagles1990 ps3 owner since december 27th 2006Donovan Mcnabb is the best play in Eagles history I bomb atomically. Socrates' philosophiesand hypotheses can't be how I be droppin thesemockeries lyrically perform armed robberyFlee with the lottery possibly they spotted meBattle-scarred shogun explosion when my pen hitstremendous ultra-violet shine alter forensics- win. Wu tang clan. Inspectah be It's getting hot we better assemble the plot butI hold a pen with the grip so tightThat'a squeeze the ink onto the page and write a song for the peopleCame up from the underground now I create verbally above on a hovercraft soundThis microphone desire an an amphetamineKeeping me alter speaking in dreamsSo nature can intervene just for a scene And you run and you run to catch up with the sun but its sinkingAnd racing around to go up behind you againThe sun is the same in the relative way but youre olderShorter of breath and one day closer to death I move remember anythingCant tell if this is true or dreamDeep drink inside I feel to screamThis terrible silence stops me-one. Metallica Promises a potential to hurtIs anything real ?When forever is to be untilDeep inside in the world of alter words... No escaping from those haunting empty words...-empty words. Death                                    - color Day. "American Idiot"                            - Gorillaz. "conclude Good Inc."              - "One-Winged Angel" composed by Nobuo Uematsu as heard from Here in the bloodlust deepest scarFor here be the Wall of Johnny GuitarPlay your Gloom ax Stephen O'MalleySub Bass rigning to the sides of the valleySub Bass climbing up measure abandon and combeGreg Anderson purveus a sonic DoomDon't accuse the Messenger of GloomDon't blame the Messenger of DoomFor this may be the Ragmarockingest AeonIn stillness O'Malley and Anderson play on compete on play on... At this VERY moment because i'm listening to the song:Split your lungs with Blood and ThunderWhen you see the white whaleBreak your backs and change your oars menIf you desire to prevailThis ivory leg is what propells meHarpoons thrust in the skyAim directly for his crooked browAnd look him straight in the eye- daub and Thunder by MastodonI've got lots of favorite lyrics I suppose but this is the album (Leviathan) i'm listening to right now. Good ole whalecore. And you run and you run to catch up with the sun but its sinkingAnd racing around to go up behind you againThe sun is the same in the relative way but youre olderShorter of breath and one day closer to deathEvery year is getting shorter never seem to find the timePlans that either go to naught or half a summon of scribbled linesHanging on in quiet desperation is the english wayThe time is gone the song is over thought Id something more to sayTime - go FloydDamnit. I was beat to it ok how about. So so you think you can express Heaven from Hell,blue skies from hurt. Can you express a color field from a cold steel complain?A grimace from a conceal?Do you evaluate you can express?And did they get you to change your heroes for ghosts?Hot ashes for trees?Hot air for a cool blow?Cold alleviate for change?And did you exchange a go on part in the war for a bring about role in a confine?How I desire how I wish you were here. We're just two lost souls swimming in a look for bowl year after year,Running over the same old ground. What undergo you found? The same old fears. desire you were here. Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd

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"History of South Africa verses New Zealand in tests - part two." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-09 14:02:58

Six years later South Africa was banished from the evaluate arena and it was not until 1994-95 that the two countries were reunited at this aim. The rubber in South Africa was to be played over three tests. New Zealand arguably had a balanced side capable of taking a series for the first time and after winning the opening test in Johannesburg by 137 runs anything was possible. New Zealand scored 411 and 194 and South Africa replied with 279 and 189. The hero for New Zealand was Matthew Hart who took 5-77 in South Africa’s second innings and 8-134 in the match. A month later the two sides met in Durban where a New Zealand victory would seal their first-ever series win against South Africa. What followed was a low scoring be eventually won by the domiciliate team by eight wickets and after two tests the result was tied 1-1. A milestone to appear from this be was an out of sorts Martin Crowe’s new New Zealand preserve for most evaluate runs a preserve previously held by John Wright. The third evaluate was in Cape Town and with everything to compete for New Zealand was once again in the hunt to beat South Africa in a series for the first time. Alas it was not to be as they were comprehensively outplayed by their hosts losing by seven wickets. History was also repeated with South Africa becoming only the second side after England against Australia in 1888 to win a three-test series after losing the opening evaluate. If the truth be told though. New Zealand was beaten by a much better organised align come up led by their new and inspirational captain Hansie Cronje. The visitors however did themselves no favours with their off the field shenanigans along with additional problems involving both the instruct and management and which doubtless contributed to what happened on the field. Read the rest of 's posts » <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <code> <em> <i> <touch> <strong>

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